ceiling again or else the u.s. could default on its credit. i think that is the sort of mechanism by which we're going to have more -- somebody is going to have to take some action. the question is how big. the president still on this offensive. i think what we have heard from republicans is they're genuinely impressed that the president has gone to these lengths. he's made them feel comfortable in the meetings but the problem is the president in showing good faith to talk about cutting entitlements and social security, he's angered some democrats and he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room now. he's hoping republicans meet him halfway. the problem still is the taxes. the republicans say they raised it in january. the president got what he wanted, albeit less than he want, but they don't want to do that again. let's have the budget cuts without that. i think that's the problem. as much as the president is wining and dining, i think this is where the sticking point will continue to be. >> you talk about no wiggle room.